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#401 2018-06-13 13:24:17

JimJoe
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

michaelkpate wrote #312507:

Unfortunately, that doesn’t actually comply with the law.

I can’t wait for the EU to fine a company for sending cookies to someone like Peter Bright. Peter is a naturalized US citizen, which required him to renounce his UK citizenship to get, but he mentioned once that it wasn’t actually recognized by the UK so he is still covered by GDPR.

Very strange. I hope you are joking… because they would have to be very informational invasive to find such things out for the typical Internet person browsing web pages.

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#402 2018-06-13 20:36:16

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

I appear to have been wrong according to GDPR – The Data Subject , Citizen or Resident?

1. A Data Subject under GDPR is anyone within the borders of the EU at the time of processing of their personal data. However, they can also be anyone and anywhere in the context of EU established Data Controllers an Data Processors.

2. If the Data Subject, moves out of the EU border and say becomes an expat, or goes on holiday then their personal data processed under these circumstances is not covered by the GDPR and they are no longer a Data Subject in the context of the GDPR, unless their data is still processed by an organisation “established” in the EU.

So when I was in Florence, Italy in 2010 and used an Internet Cafe I was covered. But the protection only covers people inside the EU – it doesn’t depend on citizenship.

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#403 2018-06-20 04:56:29

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general


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#404 2018-06-28 23:26:26

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

“Pretty much everyone is breaking the law right now,” said Denmark-based media analyst Thomas Baekdal. “There is not a single consent dialogue box anywhere that is easy to understand. We [publishers] have not really realized how much this is going to hit us. Everyone is trying to make things work the way they used to, rather than thinking about privacy. The European Union is very aggressive about privacy. This won’t stop just because we have a found a way for people to ignore it. This is coming,” added Baekdal. “They’ll likely attack Google and Facebook first. That’s how it will start, but through that, we will realize that as publishers, we’re just as bad.” – ‘Everyone is breaking the law right now’: GDPR compliance efforts are falling short

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#405 2018-06-29 02:15:29

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Manipulative Social Media Practices a longish analysis of practices and dark patterns at Gaggle, Face** and MS Windows 10. Courtesy of the Norwegian Consumer Council.

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#406 2018-06-29 17:34:07

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general


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#407 2018-07-03 09:41:06

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Time to uninstall Stylish and report it to your local data authority.


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#408 2018-07-03 10:00:21

Destry
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Interesting argument here about personal agency lacking in how web is approached. It being more important than data privacy, but to take steps toward more agency, technological web needs to change.

A critical start in that direction is making each of us the first party rather than the second when we deal with the sites, services, companies and apps of the world—and doing that at scale across all of them.

Think about how much more simple and sane it is for websites to accept our terms and our privacy policies, rather than to force each of us, all the time, to accept their terms, all expressed in their own different ways. (Because they are advised by different lawyers, equipped by different third parties, and generally confused anyway.)

Getting sites to agree to our own personal terms and policies is not a stretch, because that’s exactly what we have in the way we deal with each other in the physical world.

I’ll have to think about this one a while.


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#409 2018-07-10 12:37:00

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

ICANN filed suit in Germany seeking an injunction to compel EPAG to collect the technical and administration contact information. ICANN argued that contact information was necessary to address problems that could arise in connection with the domain name registration. Rejecting ICANN’s request, the Regional Court of Bonn held that collecting data on technical and administrative contacts would violate the data minimization rule. In support of its finding, the court noted that registrants had not previously been required to provide technical and administrative contact details, and ICANN failed to provide adequate evidence that such data collection was necessary. – German Court Issues First GDPR Ruling

So every other Domain Registrar can now expect a fine of €20 million, or 4% of the worldwide annual revenue of their prior financial year, whichever is greater.

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#410 2018-07-10 13:24:57

phiw13
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

michaelkpate wrote #312940:

Referring to a German Court issuing a ruling that follows the GDPR:

Good, more like this ruling please.

So every other Domain Registrar can now expect a fine of €20 million, or 4% of the worldwide annual revenue of their prior financial year, whichever is greater.

There you are trolling – that is not how the “punishment” is applied. As has been already noted up thread.

FWIW – seen from here in Japan, EU websites appear not to make any distinction about location of the visitor, they apply the GDPR no matter what or where. US sites is another matter. The few I visit (and I visit less and less US websites) appear hell bent to suck even more data out of the (non-EU) user. Safari’s console reports such things in interaction with the content blocker I use. Japanese websites seem to play a more privacy conscious game.

(in case you’re worried, yes my content blocker is turn to strong and prevents most if not all trackers, and ads

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