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#31 2015-08-01 07:29:04

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

Thank you to everyone who contributed to the 2015 Summer Texpattern fundraiser. We raised US$1,165.00. After PayPal fees deduction, we have a total fund of US$1,105.94 to spend on the project. Thanks to the community!

Lets decide how to spend the money now!

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#32 2015-08-06 05:23:42

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

Bump – we can discuss how to spend the funds now, a Redactor OEM license is now an option, amongst other ideas such as registration of domains, web hosting for the project etc etc…

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#33 2015-08-06 07:03:50

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

What about the foundation/association idea discussed elsewhere?


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#34 2015-08-09 01:24:31

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

colak wrote #293984:

What about the foundation/association idea discussed elsewhere?

I’m supportive of the OEM or the Domain Names ideas, but setting up a foundation – which then could own those things – that gets my +1.

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#35 2015-08-09 06:00:01

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

maverick wrote #294029:

I’m supportive of the OEM or the Domain Names ideas, but setting up a foundation – which then could own those things – that gets my +1.

Nice idea, but will require a plan. For example, in which jurisdiction and what is the purpose and ownership of the foundation etc etc.

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#36 2015-08-09 09:34:00

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

jstubbs wrote #294030:

Nice idea, but will require a plan. For example, in which jurisdiction and what is the purpose and ownership of the foundation etc etc.

We could open a specialised thread to collectively discuss this and see if we can reach a consensus.


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#37 2015-08-10 07:27:47

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

I would also be interested in the Foundation idea. My accountant didn’t have any experience of setting one of those up in the UK so she was a dead end, unfortunately.

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#38 2015-08-10 16:15:37

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

jstubbs wrote #294030:

Nice idea, but will require a plan. For example, in which jurisdiction and what is the purpose and ownership of the foundation etc etc.

Absolutely in agreement that the community would need to agree to a plan before moving foreward.

colak wrote #294031:

We could open a specialised thread to collectively discuss this and see if we can reach a consensus.

I support opening this discussion. I would suggest that opening such a discussion would be most effective if 1) the Development Team is in consensus and 2) subsequently a member of the Dev Team opened the discussion.

There are a several of threads and posts on this subject floating around. Several posts were made within the last couple of months.

philwareham wrote #294040:

I would also be interested in the Foundation idea. My accountant didn’t have any experience of setting one of those up in the UK so she was a dead end, unfortunately.

I think identifying the home base jurisdiction may be the first move once the discussion is green-lighted by the Dev Team.

I have a bit of experience with not-for-profits in the US, having worked for them over the years, but am by no means an expert. I know accountants and lawyers who are. I am willing to offer what help I can if desired. That said, my impression is that the UK is closer to the center of activity, and would see that as an argument for the UK. Or Germany for that matter.

I’m not sure what countries offer the most beneficial conditions, though.

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#39 2015-08-10 16:50:47

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

I think clarification and agreement on what kind of non-profit org is wanted needs sorting out. The words used vary from place to place, so Americans may be thinking of one thing whilst Europeans another when a word like Foundation is used.

In the UK, Foundation has no precise meaning in English law and is rarely used. Charitable Trust is the equivalent but this must demonstrate a charitable purpose and a public benefit to get tax breaks and recognized legal status. This would not be possible or would take an immense amount of work and time to set up. And basically it is not what we want. Please read What is a foundation? for more about the term Foundation and why it is inappropriate for our needs, in my opinion.

I’d guess that proponents of a Foundation are thinking more along the lines of the links in this post by maruchan about the Tiki community association. The term foundation is used as an alias for their setup (follow first link and scroll down to see that).

Or perhaps those who introduced the term Foundation are thinking of something else? If so, they need to outline a simple definition. Then whoever might help setting this legal entity up can base their actions on a community consensus of what is needed.


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#40 2015-08-10 16:58:12

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Re: Summer 2015 fund raiser for Textpattern

In the UK it’s non-profit organisation/not-for-profit organisation I refer to when talking about a ‘Foundation’. Those are the proper term for what I’d imagine we would need if it were UK-based.

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