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#221 2011-08-23 15:30:38

net-carver
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

Re: GitHub

Looks like this might have flown under people’s radars but Textpattern is available on github — and has been for some time. Graeme and I started the github mirror some time ago and it tracks the SVN commits well. Should the core team wish it we’ll gladly hand the keys to the github account over. We grabbed the ‘textpattern’ user account to make sure it was…

  • available to the core team should they want it and to…
  • maintain a mirror if they didn’t.

So people are already free to fork Textpattern on github & make changes. But pull requests are disjoint as they would come to Graeme and I rather than direct to the core devs.

PS. I also believe our very own Manniqui has a repository that also tracks the SVN sources.


Steve
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#222 2011-08-23 15:39:46

mrdale
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

OK, regardless of all my bellyaching about CCTs in TXP (and at risk of pissing off previous Devs who worked very had on TXP), IMHO this Dev team is by far and away the best at creating a clear strategy for TXP, detailing features and sharing them, and producing meaningful updates on a regular basis.

Awesome work guys. It’s exciting to watch.

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#223 2011-08-23 18:27:44

michaelkpate
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

net-carver wrote:

Looks like this might have flown under people’s radars but Textpattern is available on github — and has been for some time. Graeme and I started the github mirror some time ago and it tracks the SVN commits well. Should the core team wish it we’ll gladly hand the keys to the github account over.

We sort of discussed the existence of the repository a while back, although it is not the most coherent thread.

Bloke wrote:

Github, Mercurial. Same animal, different breakfast.

According to some guy named Linus Torvald, “Two systems worth looking at: git and Mercurial. The others with good features are too slow [for large projects].” If you aren’t on Windows, you may not care.

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#224 2011-08-23 19:08:12

net-carver
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

Michael wrote:

We sort of discussed the existence of the repository a while back, although it is not the most coherent thread.

That discussion flew under my radar.


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#225 2011-08-23 20:11:41

ruud
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

michaelkpate wrote:

According to some guy named Linus Torvald, “Two systems worth looking at: git and Mercurial. The others with good features are too slow [for large projects].” If you aren’t on Windows, you may not care.

LOL… they all are fast enough for a tiny project like TXP.

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#226 2011-08-23 20:58:21

michaelkpate
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

ruud wrote:

LOL… they all are fast enough for a tiny project like TXP.

Yes, but the only other two he like were the commercial Bitkeeper and Monotone, which I had never heard of and doesn’t seem to have achieved much traction. Speed may not matter to a “tiny project” but not having to create your own hosting solution does.

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#227 2011-08-23 21:53:50

Els
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

michaelkpate wrote:

Monotone, which I had never heard of and doesn’t seem to have achieved much traction.

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Doesn’t that sound familiar? It could be perfect ;)
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#228 2011-08-23 22:01:50

aswihart
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

michaelkpate wrote:

If you aren’t on Windows, you may not care.

Git for Windows works fine.

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#229 2011-08-24 12:37:12

michaelkpate
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

aswihart wrote:

Git for Windows works fine.

That quote was from 3 years ago so things may have changed. I tried the windows client once and had trouble figuring it out but I didn’t spend much time with it.

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#230 2011-09-29 10:59:18

AdamK
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Re: The direction of Textpattern 5

Hello

I’ve been using TXP for some years/projects, and I’m extremely interested in it’s future, so let me add my five cents ;)

My point of view: designer/web developer (doesn’t know PHP, loves TXP tags) for people outside the TXP/Textile community

1) The branching in Escher is an awesome concept, I would pay to see something like this in TXP.

2) interface similar to cnk_versioning (since installing Aptana Studio & this plugin I have not used the web interface in the current project at all)
2a) (more as a plugin wish) interface for sass / Turbine etc. When we get css from the DB, why not to transform it on the fly (css variables…)? And then save the transformation to the static files for Production branch (see above) a’la rvm_css…

3) include some low-level plugins into the core (aks_header, rah_post_versions, sitemap, rss_admin_db_manager). They have quite long release cycles anyway, and because of their low-level job it is a huge problem when the core changes (see rss_admin_db_manager for example).

4) images… rebuild, please, the images tab: let’s say Picasa-way: category as a thumbnails’ gallery, massive upload, batch thumbnail creation/resizing/re-categorization/rename. Article-side: multiple images per article, adding pictures when creating the article, XML_RCP interface for image uploading for desktop WYSWIG blog publishing. I feel that images-issue is THE most underdeveloped part of the current TXP (and it may be so because of the concept and design of the user-side workflow, which originates in an ancient times of text-oriented content??)

That is quite a description of Textpattern of my dreams ;)

Ha, and one more: Why not to distribute TXP with some plugins imported by default? For example I’d move the comments feature out to a plugin. Then one could choose, either he/she wants to use the TXP comments solution or s/he’d rather plug-in an external commenting solution, Disqus for example.

Yours
Adam

P.S. I second the discussion of removing/opening the categories of forms. The default names are confusing and misleading, suggesting that there is any difference between misc, article and links forms, where there is none.

Last edited by AdamK (2011-09-29 12:26:41)

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