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#21 2018-05-16 11:41:11

funtoosh
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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

gaekwad wrote #311831:

Thank you – do you have or recall the errors which said the files checksum didn’t match?

It was a long and probably complete list of all txp files …

(and thank YOU, guys)

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#22 2018-05-16 11:57:19

funtoosh
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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

There are two things that are peculiar about this site’s hosting, it’s on a community managed server, so the choice of php libs may at times be unusual or include outdated versions.

And my site is running in a subdirectory that kind of works like a subdomain. That never posed a problem with txp though.

It’s here, actually: https://www.muenster.org/medienforum/

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#23 2018-05-16 12:37:34

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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

So I was curious and uploaded the contents of textpattern-4.7.0.tar.gz to another yet unused txp installation (also running PHP5).

Themes are working, no sections error, no problems with checksums, but the textile help icon is missing from the dropdown in the write tab as well:

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#24 2018-05-16 13:15:00

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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

funtoosh wrote #311836:

the textile help icon is missing from the dropdown in the write tab as well

Curious. It’s added by JavaScript so there’s a chance you need to force refresh the page/flush your browser cache. But you should have been informed at upgrade time to do that if it detected your version was out of sync. This is all very odd.


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#25 2018-05-16 13:23:50

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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

Bloke, there was no info on that while upgrading, no. Refreshes did not help either, but — opening a new private window in FF dev finally did the trick. So it’s there!

As for the rest of the idiosyncratic behaviour: this will be down to serverside issues, but I have no clue on how to debug that . . . there were no serverside issues on this machine at all in the last couple years, with textpattern.

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#26 2018-05-16 13:55:45

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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

funtoosh wrote #311840:

Bloke, there was no info on that while upgrading, no. Refreshes did not help either, but — opening a new private window in FF dev finally did the trick. So it’s there!

Aggressive browser cache then. Grrrr.

As for the rest of the idiosyncratic behaviour: this will be down to serverside issues… there were no serverside issues on this machine at all in the last couple years, with textpattern.

So we need to find out why, because if it’s doing it on your server, Murphy’s law says it’ll happen to someone else too. If we can stamp it out / make fewer assumptions / report things better / add more defensive code, then it’ll benefit everyone with similar configurations and make Textpattern more robust.

So the more info we have about your setup (and we have a lot already, thank you) the more chance we’ll have to configure a test rig up to match and we might then be able to track down what’s going astray.


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#27 2018-05-16 13:58:10

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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

Pro tip: use Tor or similar cache-less browser for sites that have had problematic updates in the past, exit the browser completely and it’ll give you a clean slate every time.

(Anything else you do with Tor…well, that’s up to you.)

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#28 2018-05-16 14:09:41

Bloke
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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

funtoosh wrote #311811:

Fatal error: Uncaught exception ‘UnexpectedValueException’

I’ve tried everything I can think of – reducing permissions, renaming the themes directory, even removing it – and all I get is a Not writable files/directories: /path/to/themes message at the top of the Themes panel. And I’m running a lower version of PHP than you, too. Can’t figure why the UnexpectedValueException error would be thrown… anyone?


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#29 2018-05-16 14:15:24

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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

Bloke wrote #311843:

Can’t figure why the UnexpectedValueException error would be thrown… anyone?

Must be a permissions thing. Either user:group is wrong or file permissions don’t permit access.

@funtoosh: when you FTP files to your server, what permissions are set by the FTP application, please?

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#30 2018-05-16 14:15:49

jakob
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Re: Two issues with 4.7.0

@funtoosh: Perhaps you can take the plugins out of the mix by setting the plugin status to 0 in the table txp_plugin in phpMyAdmin or similar.

Also, do you have any plugins loading from the plugin_cache directory? (I can’t remember if they’re reported in diagnostics). If not, maybe rename that directory temporarily, so they’re not loaded.


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