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#11 2014-02-18 18:24:58

monkeyninja
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From: Sheffield, UK
Registered: 2008-10-14
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

Destry wrote #279052:

monkey,

Plugin is installed and the meta fields show up in the Write panel as expected. A description is added in the Meta description field (e.g., “Lorem ipsum delor…”). I’ve put this tag in the head section of my article template, <txp:arc_meta_description />, and I’m expecting to see something like this output in the tag’s place…

<meta name="description" content="Lorem ipsum delor...">...

Correct expectation?

But nothing outputs. Just a blank space where the tag was inserted.

What should I check?

Sounds like you are doing it right so it should be working. Is your description definitely saving? <txp:arc_meta_description /> will only output a meta tag if there is a description set (to avoid cluttering the markup with unnecessary tags). Is the page you’re viewing the individual article page that you set the description for?

Destry wrote #279053:

One suggestion… It would be nice to have an option in options(?) to not display the Title field under the Meta section if a site owner didn’t want to use it. (One less field that is shown — or needs explained — to “Freelancer” contributors.)

I suspected the title field could cause some confusion. Any recommendations for relabelling it would be appreciated to make the field clearer.

If I was to add an option for hiding fields output by the plugin would you want it based on user permissions or a global setting for all users?

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#12 2014-02-19 12:34:49

Destry
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From: Haut-Rhin
Registered: 2004-08-04
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

visualpeople wrote #279066:

If you’re looking at an article list, say a section front, it will ONLY use the description you have put in under that section “Presentation —> Sections —> ‘Meta Description’.

Thanks. That was indeed the problem. I only have one full article display in the “Articles” landing section, and I was overlooking the fact it needed to appear like this to see the individual description, /articles/article-title.

monkeyninja wrote #279067:

Any recommendations for relabelling it would be appreciated to make the field clearer.

Actually, I was going to suggest using “Meta-title”. Likewise “Meta-description” and, if possible, “Meta-keywords”. This is also consistent with how you label them in categories and sections, for example, and consistency is good.

I realize that’s a tad redundant with the legend label, but it’s the difference of being confusing (as is) to being quite clear, so +1 for redundancy and clear, in my opinion.

Speaking of keywords, are you making a keywords tag that pulls from the keywords field? I suppose that’s not really needed, as it can be done easy enough with native tags, but since it’s all features grouped under the Meta section, it makes sense to me. Options are good. ;)


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#13 2014-02-19 19:17:14

uli
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Registered: 2006-08-15
Posts: 4,165

Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

Hi Andy,

thanks for this plugin!

I’ve remarked that you prepopulate some preference entries (eg. search results) with terms from txp_lang, dependent on the selected admin language. If someone switches languages after installing the plugin (that’s probably not uncommon in non-English countries) these entries remain in the original language.

Could you mention that in the help for the next update so that anyone concerned might keep that in mind?


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#14 2014-02-24 22:23:48

monkeyninja
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From: Sheffield, UK
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Posts: 238
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

Destry wrote #279088:

Actually, I was going to suggest using “Meta-title”. Likewise “Meta-description” and, if possible, “Meta-keywords”. This is also consistent with how you label them in categories and sections, for example, and consistency is good.

I agree that’s more consistent. I’ll update the plugin accordingly.

Speaking of keywords, are you making a keywords tag that pulls from the keywords field? I suppose that’s not really needed, as it can be done easy enough with native tags, but since it’s all features grouped under the Meta section, it makes sense to me. Options are good. ;)

A meta keywords tag is already in the code ready for the next release that should be ready soon.

uli wrote #279103:

I’ve remarked that you prepopulate some preference entries (eg. search results) with terms from txp_lang, dependent on the selected admin language. If someone switches languages after installing the plugin (that’s probably not uncommon in non-English countries) these entries remain in the original language.

Could you mention that in the help for the next update so that anyone concerned might keep that in mind?

Thanks for pointing this out. It’s not something I’d considered. I’ll update the documentation to mention this.

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#15 2014-03-02 17:21:00

Destry
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

Andy,

I notice the HTML output creates a meta tag that ends like ... />, with a space and forward slash. Is that a constraint by Textpattern or can those spaces and slashes be removed? I think Txp’s default templates are HTML5 now, aren’t they?

Never mind. I see what you’re position is, and that a closing slash is still valid in HTML5. That’s okay with me. ;)


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#16 2014-04-29 14:52:35

maniqui
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Registered: 2004-10-10
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

A feature request: adding a new tab (suggestion: under “Content -> Metadata”) to edit the meta-title and meta-description for sections.
Rationale: there is at least one plugin (rah_flat) that disables the “Presentation -> Sections” tab while enabled, making it impossible to edit the meta-title and meta-description fields added by arc_meta.


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#17 2014-04-29 18:06:53

monkeyninja
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From: Sheffield, UK
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Posts: 238
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

maniqui wrote #280489:

A feature request: adding a new tab (suggestion: under “Content -> Metadata”) to edit the meta-title and meta-description for sections.
Rationale: there is at least one plugin (rah_flat) that disables the “Presentation -> Sections” tab while enabled, making it impossible to edit the meta-title and meta-description fields added by arc_meta.

Hi maniqui, I’ve not yet had chance to look into rah_flat so not sure what impact it would have on arc_meta. Your suggestion is interesting though. Is the issue just related to sections? Perhaps it would make sense to have a Content -> Section Metadata tab if that can be enabled/disabled from the plugin’s settings.

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#18 2014-05-08 16:28:04

maniqui
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

Hi monkeyninja. I missed your reply.

Hi maniqui, I’ve not yet had chance to look into rah_flat so not sure what impact it would have on arc_meta.

Maybe I wasn’t clear: when enabled, rah_flat restricts access to “Presentation -> Sections” tab, thus, making it impossible to edit any fields, including those added by arc_meta.

Your suggestion is interesting though. Is the issue just related to sections? Perhaps it would make sense to have a Content -> Section Metadata tab if that can be enabled/disabled from the plugin’s settings.

It sounds like a good idea. Also, metadata (including section metadata) is more related to content than to presentation, imo. So, content editors (ie. site owner, for example) should be able to edit these metadata fields, even if they don’t have granted permissions for accessing the “Presentation” tab.


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#19 2014-05-08 16:34:52

maniqui
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From: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

While here, there is something else I’d like to share: I see that lengths for fields are hardcoded in the plugin. For example, the title field is limited to 65 characters and the description field is limited to 150. Although I can understand that these upper limits are related to the usual length these fields have on some search engine results pages (and other crawlers and/or indexers), I find the constrain a bit arbitrary and somewhat limiting.
I’d rather let the user input any amount of text on these fields, or cap its upper limits via plugin’s code (with a value that could be seat in the plugin’s options), instead of silently truncating it on the database.
What do you think?


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#20 2014-05-11 14:07:34

Pat64
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From: France
Registered: 2005-12-12
Posts: 1,228
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Re: arc_meta - Improve Your SEO

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#@admin
#@language fr-fr
arc_meta_article_title => Forme du titre des articles (meta)
arc_meta_comment_title => Forme du titre des commentaires (meta)
arc_meta_search_title => Forme du titre des recherches (meta)
arc_meta_category_title => Forme du titre des catégories (meta)
arc_meta_section_title => Forme du titre des sections (meta)
arc_meta_homepage_title => Forme du titre de la page d’accueil (meta)


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