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#31 2012-03-09 08:44:36

jpdupont
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Re: TXP Magazine rises

New readers of the magazine don’t care about pet “nicknames”, they care about the content. Good content.
You guys keep using “TXP” in the way you want to. Nobody is stopping you. All roads lead to the dog house.

TXPMag: good content, certainly!

That new readers read the magazine and understand the name of this magazine is TXP, OK.

Then these new readers are converting to Textpattern and use resources such as forums. In thousand posts, TXP is no longer the magazine, but the CMS ?

TXP is – for you – sexier than TXPMag, but adds to the confusion when reading your articles or the forum posts, for the new “customer”.

When I see your signature, I am disturbed. Here TXP lead to your dog house

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#32 2012-03-09 11:23:06

linguist
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Re: TXP Magazine rises

Destry,

You write that all roads lead to Textpattern.com. Yes, it should be like that, Textpattern CMS being the most important part of any Textpattern-related activity. And so far it has been like that with every Textpattern-related site that uses the names Textpattern and TXP as synonyms. But making TXP an official name for the magazine (and you say that all official Textpattern documents will be changed accordingly) will be MINUS one road to Textpattern, and not just minus a road, but minus a highway!

TXP has never been a confusing abbreviation for anyone using Textpattern or interested in Textpattern, as TXP has always and everywhere meant Textpattern. But the abbreviation TXP may become quite confusing from now on if it becomes the official name for TXP Magazine. What for? The magazine is in good hands now, you are doing great promotion work for it, the content is interesting, and everyone is certainly going to visit txpmag.com again and again. There seems to be absolutely no need to deprive Textpattern CMS of its lovely, long-standing, well-established, and very recognizable nickname TXP. Please reconsider, if possible. We love Textpattern and TXP!

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#33 2012-04-02 18:43:13

NyteOwl
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From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Re: TXP Magazine rises

Looks interesting and I may read it from time to time but I won’t be commenting. I don’t do Disqus and imho it acts as a disconnect between an organization and those who care to participate. If an organization can’t make the bit of effort that goes into managing the comments of its readers I can’t make the effort to comment, simple as that.

As for the name. TXP has for some time entered the language stream as a shorthand for Textpattern, as WP has for Wordpress, MT for MovableType or GM for General Motors. Frankly, imho, using it for the magazine without the complete name (TXP Magazine) is a disservice to Textpattern and a dilution of it’s recognizeable identity. That said the decision regarding such is up to Textpattern’s owners.

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#34 2012-04-02 21:51:40

maruchan
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Re: TXP Magazine rises

If an organization can’t make the bit of effort that goes into managing the comments of its readers I can’t make the effort to comment, simple as that.

Darn, just when I had settled on Disqus for running my comments! I hate managing commenting systems. How about Twitter-driven commenting? Do you do that?

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#35 2012-04-03 01:24:23

Destry
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Re: TXP Magazine rises

NyteOwl wrote:

I don’t do Disqus and imho it acts as a disconnect between an organization and those who care to participate.

If you don’t like DISQUS, that’s your right and I can understand. (I’m not crazy about Facebook, but I tolerate it for community reasons.)

I don’t see you logic about disconnect, though.

In fact, we did put some thought into our choice. There are a lot more DISQUS users than Txp users, and we want those people to come and read the magazine. That’s the whole point of this effort. We’re not dumping months of our time into the mag just to entertain the forum regulars alone. If we can get a few of those new readers to try the CMS for the first time too, then the magazine has succeeded. That’s the ROI. That’s about connecting, not disconnecting. A strategic decision based on magazine objectives.

If an organization can’t make the bit of effort that goes into managing the comments of its readers I can’t make the effort to comment

Yeah, because we’re not making any efforts on the magazine. :)

Seriously, though. The magazine actually has it’s own DISQUS account. As such, it also has an admin dashboard to manage comments—everyone’s comments—any way we want to, and do so with far greater usability and ease than Txp provides.

Ironically enough, textpattern.com’s blog comments are some of the worst I’ve ever encountered because I can never see my entry without some cache refresh I have to initiate, or some silly nonsense… I can never remember from one time to the next what I have to do. That is disconnect.

But, hey… if there’s one thing we should all know in this industry: you can’t please everybody.


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#36 2012-04-03 06:18:26

jpdupont
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Re: TXP Magazine rises

Destry wrote:

… more DISQUS users than Txp users … and do so with far greater usability and ease than Txp provides …

NyteOwl:

As for the name. TXP has for some time entered the language stream as a shorthand for Textpattern, as WP has for Wordpress, MT for MovableType or GM for General Motors. Frankly, imho, using it for the magazine without the complete name (TXP Magazine) is a disservice to Textpattern and a dilution of it’s recognizeable identity.

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#37 2012-04-03 06:50:07

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Re: TXP Magazine rises

oof

(The horrible eye pollution is now linked too, not embedded. Don’t make me bring it back.)

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#38 2012-04-03 08:39:48

colak
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Re: TXP Magazine rises

I’m following the arguments but I refrain to pose an opinion. What’s important is the content and on http://txpmag.com/historical/battling-depression the first 3 paragraphs repeat themselves further down.


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#39 2012-04-03 08:50:19

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Re: TXP Magazine rises

@colak: Thanks for the heads-up.


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#40 2012-04-03 09:03:35

Bloke
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Re: TXP Magazine rises

colak wrote:

on http://txpmag.com/historical/battling-depression the first 3 paragraphs repeat themselves further down.

That’s because the excerpt in that article contains a copy of the first three paragraphs of the body and we’re now displaying both exceprt and body in the article itself, whereas the previous mag didn’t. Guess we should remove the last 3 paragraphs of the excerpt, thanks!

EDIT: Looks like Destry has done it. Cool.

Last edited by Bloke (2012-04-03 09:07:48)


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