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#11 2008-07-18 10:53:15

chriloi
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From: Vienna, Austria
Registered: 2006-01-17
Posts: 120
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

gomedia schrieb:

adi_menu vs cnk_section_tree

Adi,

you are wrong. Showing articles in the tree is an option, but not the core functionality of my plugin. So I really don’t get why your plugin is so different to mine.

I also had a look at your code and I would say, that the greatest difference is performance. While my code is able to handle very large trees with no performance loose, your code gets slower with every new section level.

Another big thing is, that I’m currently implementing nice urls, which means it takes some time to realease the next version, so it is not very nice of you to bring out your (very similar) plugin and sell it as something better than mine and promote it in my plugin support thread.

Last edited by chriloi (2008-07-18 10:53:44)

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#12 2008-07-18 11:38:03

kemie
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From: mexico<-->sweden
Registered: 2004-05-20
Posts: 495
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

This looks super interesting! I’ve had to manually create menus for suckerfish-type navigation, so it’s great to have this plugin be able to generate it dynamically!


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#13 2008-07-18 12:54:38

gomedia
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Registered: 2008-06-01
Posts: 1,224
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

jelle wrote:

The only thing I don’t like is the backend. I can handle it but it’s too elaborate for some less technical clients.

jelle, I’m surprised you think the backend is too elaborate – it’s pretty much the same sort of interface as the rest of Textpattern.

I had a look at your jQuery suggestion – very snazzy but it might be a bit like putting a mouse on a calculator.

Ultimately the section/subsection functionality will be provided by Textpattern anyway (there’s talk of it in 4.1), but the exclusion/clone features of adi_menu may still be useful.

Your comment did get me thinking though. A preview of the section heirarchy in the admin tab would probably be beneficial. I’ll include it in a later version.

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#14 2008-07-18 13:34:00

gomedia
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Registered: 2008-06-01
Posts: 1,224
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

chriloi wrote:

you are wrong. Showing articles in the tree is an option, but not the core functionality of my plugin. So I really don’t get why your plugin is so different to mine.

The differences are cnk_section_tree:

  • can show articles, whereas adi_menu can’t (although I’ve had a request to do so)
  • outputs markup suitable for rendering a collapsible tree structure, adi_menu doesn’t

whereas adi_menu:

  • renders the active section as a link (which is required for Internet Explorer hover to work)
  • renders section parents with a specific CSS class that can be used for styling purposes
  • includes ‘clone’ functionality
  • provides section sorting
  • attempts to avoid plugin conflicts

chriloi wrote:

I also had a look at your code and I would say, that the greatest difference is performance. While my code is able to handle very large trees with no performance loose, your code gets slower with every new section level.

Possibly true, but adi_menu is designed produce a navigation menu from a section hierarchy. For most websites, this is likely to be 2, 3 or maybe 4 levels at most. In my own testing, I haven’t noticed any problems.

chriloi wrote:

Another big thing is, that I’m currently implementing nice urls, which means it takes some time to release the next version, so it is not very nice of you to bring out your (very similar) plugin and sell it as something better than mine and promote it in my plugin support thread.

No offence intended. There are posts in cnk_section_tree forum from users looking for functionality that you don’t provide. In fact, there are posts from me on this subject as well. I was able to modify cnk_section_tree to a certain extent but ultimately it made sense (to me at least) to start from scratch. I needed the menu functionality sooner rather than later and by releasing adi_menu I am hopefully giving others something useful as well. I did not sell adi_menu as being better than cnk_section_tree. To quote adi_menu post #1:

There is some overlap in functionality between the two plugins but, essentially, they have different aims.

If you want a section hierarchy that is rendered with the aim of producing a tree, which includes articles, then cnk_section_tree is the plugin for you.

And I gave you a mention in the Credits.

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#15 2008-08-04 10:38:46

gomedia
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Registered: 2008-06-01
Posts: 1,224
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

Version 0.3 released. It provides a few more hooks for your CSS and there’s now a summary of the hierarchy in the admin tab.

  • enhancement: new adi_menu tag attribute ‘link_span’ – wrap <span>…</span> around contents of links
  • enhancement: new adi_menu tag attributes ‘list_id’ & ‘list_id_prefix’ – output unique IDs to <li> elements
  • enhancement: new adi_menu tag attribute ‘active_li_class’ – output class on active <li>
  • enhancement: adi_menu admin now displays summary of configured section hierarchy
  • modification: adi_breadcrumb tag attribute ‘sep’ deprecated for ‘separator’

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#16 2008-08-04 11:39:01

lee
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From: Normandy, France
Registered: 2004-06-17
Posts: 831

Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

Thanks Adi. I especially like the active li class.

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#17 2008-08-12 05:47:32

gomedia
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

Version 0.4 released, which provides some fixes for the breadcrumb trail – see post #1 for details.

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#18 2008-08-14 18:41:00

vk
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From: Indonesia
Registered: 2008-02-27
Posts: 46
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

i got problem when installing adi_menu with MLP – The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack plugins… any info ? Thanks in advanced…

Adi, it’s cool plugins anyway…


Viking KARWUR
Textpattern Enthusiast & I run MadebyVK A small web design and web development studio based in Jakarta, Indonesia.
I’m @vikingkarwur and @MadebyVK on Twitter

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#19 2008-08-14 22:34:05

gomedia
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

vk wrote:

i got problem when installing adi_menu with MLP – The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack plugins… any info ?

I’ll have a play with MLP & adi_menu. What was the problem you experienced?

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#20 2008-08-15 03:58:31

vk
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From: Indonesia
Registered: 2008-02-27
Posts: 46
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Re: adi_menu – section hierarchy, section menu and breadcrumb trail

If I install MLP plugins, the adi_menu won’t work :(


Viking KARWUR
Textpattern Enthusiast & I run MadebyVK A small web design and web development studio based in Jakarta, Indonesia.
I’m @vikingkarwur and @MadebyVK on Twitter

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