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#1 2005-09-11 06:20:51

alesh
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From: Miami, FL
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Archives

I’m still baffled by how difficult it is to create archives by month, like so many sites have. I understand that it’s possible with rss_suparchive_menu, but a million things have to be lined up just so before it’ll work (non-messy url’s, permalinks, sections, code, etc…), after months of trying i’ve yet to achieve success.

Seems like something that would be easier incorporated into the release…


Yes, I have tried turning it off and on.

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#2 2005-09-14 03:44:43

photonomad
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Re: Archives

I SECOND that request!

Archives by month, or year, or week, etc. – should be a ‘built in’ feature that is easily created with forms from within Textpattern.

Last edited by photonomad (2005-09-14 03:45:48)

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#3 2005-09-14 19:02:13

thebombsite
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Re: Archives

You should remember that TXP is a CMS not blogging software so if you are waiting for something to happen along these lines I wouldn’t hold your breath. :) That’s not to say that it won’t ever happen but it’s probably near the bottom of the pile of “things to do”. In the meantime I removed the rss_suparchive plug-in I was using and coded my archives by hand instead. My archives are “by category” but you can use <code><txp:article_custom /></code> to select by year/month instead to produce monthly archives. Have a read of my write-up and see what you think.


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#4 2005-09-14 20:35:26

alesh
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Re: Archives

Hard-coding does not necessarily sound so bad… does that mean a separate section AND a separate page for each month, though? That seems a drag…


Yes, I have tried turning it off and on.

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#5 2005-09-15 00:21:28

thebombsite
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Re: Archives

No. If you follow the article through you will see that all my archive uses a single page template but with multiple article_custom tags and it all sits in it’s own single section. The initial hand coding may take a few minutes but after that you only need to add a new tag each month and as the tags will be identical apart from the date attribute you can copy/paste to your heart’s content. Another plus for hand-coding is that you can split things into pages if you wanted depending on the number of entries there are likely to be, for example you could have separate pages for each year if you needed them. They would still all be in a single section.


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#6 2005-09-15 00:38:53

Sencer
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Registered: 2004-03-23
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Re: Archives

Does anybody actually use monthly archives on pages? I don’t mean site authors, I mean website-readers? It always sounded like one of those ideas that is highly popular by writers, but doesn’t really jive with users, like creating overloaded portals and having mini-calendars as a way to navigate to posts. But maybe that’s just me.

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#7 2005-09-15 01:08:20

thebombsite
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Re: Archives

Well as a user Sencer, when visiting someone else’s site I have to say I find date archives totally useless. I’m really not interested in what someone was writing about last June. If I’m having to search for something then it’s either via the search itself, or more likely categories. I’m always baffled by the way people give the date field an “h#” tag. I mean date archives are fine for “events” sites or “accounts” or something that is truley date-related but otherwise I think they are a waste of space. Probably a fad. A bit like fixed-width designs. :) I take it I’m not alone then.

Last edited by thebombsite (2005-09-15 01:11:59)


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#8 2005-09-15 01:47:55

phiw13
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Registered: 2004-02-27
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Re: Archives

Echoing Stuart, I don’t remember ever having a look at archives by date on a site. Categories, sections, any kind of ‘topical’ tag will probably attract my attention much more. Personally, I absolutely don’t see any use for a ‘archive by month’. Heck, even all those calendars with links to recent posts are just clutter to me.

Ofcourse, if a site is dedicated to ‘events’, then we’re talking something else. But even then, I’d first look for categories kind of taxonomy.

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#9 2005-09-15 03:05:22

ubernostrum
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Registered: 2004-05-05
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Re: Archives

If there’s absolutely no other way to navigate through an archive, I’ll use date-based navigation. Otherwise I’d rather browse by category or topic, or use a search function. I don’t know of any research on the topic, though.

Last edited by ubernostrum (2005-09-15 03:05:44)


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#10 2005-09-15 03:05:30

Mary
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Registered: 2004-06-27
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Re: Archives

Well, I use them in the event I have to, in other words no other form of archive available to me. Certainly wouldn’t be my first choice though.

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